Innate Ability & Health
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Balanced Body Blueprint: Steve Abbey's Formula for Thriving
When Steve Abbey turned his health hurdles into a holistic wellness revolution, he didn't just create a product, he sparked a movement. In our latest conversation with Steve, we delve into the genesis of his comprehensive health product and its roots in real adversity. Through his story and the science-backed wisdom he shares, you'll see how whole foods and essential nutrients like vitamin B12, K2, and D3 can fill the gaps left by conventional health approaches, and why the choice of supplements, from organic mushrooms to low heavy metal options, could be the key to unlocking optimal health.
This episode isn't just about theory; it's about tangible results. We explore the astounding health benefits that come from incorporating nutrient-rich smoothies into your daily diet, as evidenced by a study involving a tree trimming service team. Imagine experiencing reduced inflammation and improved blood sugar control by sipping on a delicious smoothie every day – this isn't just a dream. We discuss how Steve's product is designed to tackle common deficiencies, such as iodine, and the profound impact this can have on your health, from thyroid function to metabolic balance.
Tying it all together, we examine the balance of lifestyle choices in sustainable weight management and overall well-being. Discover how your body's natural equilibrium is disrupted by modern challenges, including endocrine disruptors and EMFs, and learn strategies for integrating fiber and tailoring nutrition to your life – whether you're aiming for weight loss or enhancing athletic performance. Steve's comprehensive approach to health is a testament to the power of combining a nutritious diet with exercise and a positive mindset, offering a transformative health experience that's more than just skin deep. Join us and be inspired by Steve's journey and insights – your body and mind will thank you.
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Hello everyone. Today we are here with Steve Abbey, who has a pretty amazing product, a one of a kind. From what I can tell right now on the market, and knowing and having used many different products like this in the past, I'm very excited for him to explain it to us today and give us a little information about how he arrived at this. Hey, steve, how are you doing Good? How are you doing Ryan? Great thanks. So I'd like to just start out with you telling us a little bit about how you got on this path to where you ended up with this amazing product that we're going to go over today and some other things. So go ahead and share about that.
Speaker 2:I had a host of health issues about 30 years ago and actually it was 35 years ago and one of them was psoriasis. I had reactive hypoglycemia, I had chronic fatigue. I just I wasn't doing well at all and I was going to doctors trying to figure out these different things and it just wasn't working. So I ended up deciding I need to take my health into my own hands and I started just going down this path of researching and really learning how to read peer-reviewed published journal articles and things like that, where I could really understand what was behind everything. And after I really solved my own problems, I just became fascinated and started looking into cancer and heart disease and diabetes and autoimmune conditions and osteoporosis. And I was just fascinated and what I noticed is all of these things that were available, all this information showing all these things that we could do, was not being translated out into the real world to be utilized by people. So I have been passionate about that and been taking courses. I've worked with naturopathic doctors, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't until four years ago I sold my last business, which was a solar development business. I sold that and I decided I wasn't, I was basically retired and then I was like I still have a lot to give and I decided to do something with all this knowledge that I've been looking into. And the thing that pushed me over the line is I was part of the team that helped a couple of really close friends of mine go through the last months of their life and they were dying of preventable diseases, and the last one just was devastating for me and I was just like okay, so there's so much that we can do to prevent these things from happening. I spent literally four years designing and developing what I have now so that these things can be prevented, and it's all from Whole Foods and it's very different product and it's very comprehensive.
Speaker 1:Nice, yeah, no, I was looking at it. I was looking at your website and everything. I was very impressed by how comprehensive it was. We actually, at the practice here, have a greens that we use and I was doing a comparison of how we've got it's got half the things that your product has in it, right. So, yeah, it's really is very comprehensive. Can you talk about how you came to making it so robust and where that's headed now for your products?
Speaker 2:I really wanted to make sure certain things were in it and there were certain things that were out of it. So I don't add any sodium, of course, because the American diet is chock full of sodium, chock full of sodium and we have too much as a whole, right, it doesn't mean that under certain circumstances, if you're a high level athlete, you might want to take a sodium in some form for that specific event, but in most cases, americans don't need it, so you don't need fluoride. In my opinion, that's crazy to put something. These are all RDA things, right. You don't need phosphorus, etc. Choline, you just don't need these things. But what you do need are things like especially if you're plant based, you need vitamin B12. Almost all Americans need vitamin K2. And most people don't even know it. Almost all Americans need vitamin D3. Or that would be the best form of supplemental if you're not getting sunlight. And the CDC has done like an analysis of where Americans sit with vitamin D and where they stand, and only about 5% of them get 35 nanograms per milliliter, which is still low, in my opinion, based on what I've seen for immunity, based on what I've seen for bone health, based on what I've seen for prevention of cancer, things like that. In my opinion it is all of these things are critical to get in.
Speaker 2:And there are all these other things that are not part of the RDA. Mushrooms are fantastic, and having a consistent form of mushrooms for immunity and for a whole bunch of preventative, such as cancer and things like that, makes a lot of sense. But then it's the type of mushrooms that you have. You want to have one that are high beta-glucan. You want low starch, so it's not ground up on the substrate that it was grown on. You want it organic, so it's not full of toxins. You want it low heavy metals, so you have things like that.
Speaker 2:And there's just tremendous amount of research that goes into these things and to me, I've been really trying to put together a product that can really change somebody's health trajectory, and so that's how I came to all these things. I'll give you an example. If you look at almost every product on the market, it's going to have, if it has a vitamin C in it, of any amount, that's going to have an impact. Right, it's going to have usually ascorbic acid or calcium ascorbate or liposomal vitamin C. Those all have a base of ascorbic acid and the difference between whole form vitamin C, and that is very substantial. And have you ever heard of how ascorbic acid is manufactured? Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, roughly. There's a lot of chemicals used in the process to end up with that particular molecule, but it has no bioavailability from my understanding.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I'll tell you. It all used to be made in a plant in New Jersey that's moved over to China. Now 95% of the world's supply of ascorbic acid is made in China, and what they do is they take high-fructose corn syrup, they put it under incredible pressure, they put it under incredible heat, they do an acetone wash and then they neutralize it with hydrochloric acid and then in the end you have a molecule that's chemically identical to what you find in nature. However, that alone has no vitamin activity none, zero. So you have to have all the cofactors bioflavonoids and everything else for that molecule to be able to be used.
Speaker 2:And if you look at how it works in the body in studies, you can find anything. Some studies are going to show one thing, but most of the studies show a very substantial difference between dietary vitamin C and whole form vitamin C. I have one on my website, under the research section, where there's a study where it's looking at the progression towards heart disease as measured by the carotid artery, the thickness of the carotid artery, and the people that had the highest level of vitamin C in supplemental form were moving three times faster than people not taking any vitamin C at all, whereas people that had higher amounts of vitamin C in whole food form were protected, albeit not a big protective effect, but it was protective as opposed to being detrimental. And that's the thing. Gently, getting normal physiological amounts of nutrients in a whole form way, with all the things, makes, in my opinion, a huge difference in how things are accepted, absorbed and utilized by the body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, obviously it's an empirical fact with a study like that that whatever's done and whatever you get out of that vitamin C quote unquote is not really doing anything for you, perhaps even harming so amazing. Let me ask you this because a lot of the audience that listens to this podcast and the clients that are practiced are very they want to make sure that they have high quality products and that they're sourced very well, and I know you've done extensive research and work to make sure your product is very high quality. Can you tell us a little bit about the ingredients, where they come from and why they're amazing so?
Speaker 2:it's what I set out to do and this was. I was being a little bit of a perfectionist, so this is not necessarily good from a business perspective. So what I wanted to do is make a product that really covered people's bases and when the original product? So I'm making one that's going to have flavorings and sweeteners so that people can just take it on their own. Some people are taking this just by itself, but it was really designed to be part of a smoothie. And the reason why I designed that?
Speaker 2:Because if you make a healthy smoothie and you put this product in, you are so far ahead. There's only so much I can put into a product, right. But if you make, let's say, a 16 ounce or 18 or 20 ounce smoothie mixed with full greens, I already have greens. I have a full serving in my. Actually it's even a little bit more than a full serving of greens in the product. But then you have greens on top of that, because only 3% of Americans get their greens, only 2% get their orange vegetables, only 12% get their nuts and seeds, etc. So what I do is I make a very healthy smoothie and then I add this in. So what does this do? Let's say you have this amazingly healthy smoothie without my product. You have all these phytonutrients, right you are covering.
Speaker 2:And have you ever heard of the phytochemical index? Have you heard of that? I have not. No, so the phytochemical index is what percentage of a person's diet are whole plant foods, not refined grains, refined fats or refined sugars, or even meat, dairy and eggs? So all of that would not be considered whole plant foods.
Speaker 2:So that's what we're looking at and there have now been a series of studies out of the University of Tehran Medical Sciences University, which is one of the it's the most prestigious university in that part of the world, but it's a very prestigious. Not it's not the number one in the world, but it's very prestigious. But they've done a series of studies on the phytochemical index and they were looking at it the highest compared to the lowest quartiles, the highest 25% compared to the lowest 25%. And they looked at like breast cancer for women and they had a 92% lowering for the women in the highest, which was I think it was 42% of their diets were whole plant foods, compared to the lowest, which only had I think it was 14%. So Americans on average are a 12%. So we're even lower than their lowest quartile, just to give you an example.
Speaker 2:But then you looked at. They looked at pre-diabetes and it was a 91%. They looked at obesity it was a 66% reduction. They looked at hypertension it was 48%.
Speaker 2:So, starting out with a smoothie, a healthy smoothie that has a nut or seed butter, a greens, I usually throw a carrot in some berries and I make it. I put in cinnamon, I make it really healthy. You're starting your day with a huge percentage of your diet right there, with whole plant foods. My product's not even in it. But then my product comes in and all of a sudden it has mushrooms that aren't in normal smoothies. It has turmeric, which I'm sure you know is fantastic from an anti-inflammation et cetera, anti-cancer, things like that. Then it has specific nutrients. Say, you're not going to have any iodine to speak of in a normal smoothie, right, you're going to have tiny amounts.
Speaker 2:But I have 170% of the RDA from a blend of three organic kelps from Iceland, which are as far away from Indian industrial center. It's a form that your body can handle. It's with a full spectrum of minerals and a green leafy vegetable. It is very different than taking potassium iodide. It is not the same in terms of how gently it goes into the body and really makes sure. Then, for plant-based people, I have a vitamin B12 from mushrooms that are grown on the bacteria that creates vitamin B12 and it goes into there and it gets stabilized. It's a whole form of B12 and I'm going to have.
Speaker 2:What is it? 1800% of the RDA, because only a small percentage gets absorbed. It's a water-soluble vitamin, et cetera. I try and cover all the nutrients that are needed in a whole form way, while covering them with the big things, like it has a full greens blend in it with cruciferous vegetables. It has a berry blend, because berries are pretty much the most nutrient dense fruits. It has a probiotic and a 10 billion CFUs of several bacillus strains, which is great for repopulating the gut. What you really want are the prebiotics. You want to feed what you have. I have. What is it? Seven grams of fiber in it. It's a huge amount of fiber and pre-fiber, and then it has mushrooms, et cetera, et cetera. I won't go on and on, but it's a very comprehensive product.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I was looking. I have not seen a product like this, to be honest, with this many options in it. Let me ask you about a couple that I'm not familiar with, at least how they're listed here. There's one called ubiquinol what exactly? I know it's an active form of CoQ10, but how do you get that in there and what is that there for?
Speaker 2:It's not going to be in my new product and it's not because it's not good. It is a good thing. It's super expensive. So the reason why I put it in there is because you bick when all is the active form of coq ten, just like you said, right, and some people, especially people that are Over fifty, five, sixty, they start having trouble converting coq ten to bick when all which is the active form, which is what your body uses to make a tp, and if you look at the amount of coq ten or you bick when all In the body, it starts going down, especially in the places that are really important, like the heart, the liver, the kidneys. This is really important.
Speaker 2:So for older people that are having any sort of like ejection factor of their heart, if their heart is not pumping enough blood and they need to up their amount of you bick when all would be the best way to get it and there's a company called connect which is the only manufacturer of it on the planet is extremely expensive. There's a company that sells tablets of it and I can't think of their name. I think it's healthy origins. Can you take very good way to do it? So if somebody in your listening. I have no connection with this, but I think it's called healthy origin. You can get it on amazon and they sell hundred milligram tablets of you bick, when all it's just a very good way of Covering and helping the a tp in your heart, as well as your kidneys and liver and things like that, from really having the energy to do what it's supposed to do, and I think that is a critical thing.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, that's new information for me. That's Awesome, and thank you for sharing how to get it in where we can find that now. When I heard you talk before and we're talking a little bit before this you had some pretty amazing stories About people using your product and getting amazing results and changes in their blood, work and health and all that. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I am running a couple of studies right now and I have a friend who has a tree trimming service and you have seventy guys that are in it and he is going to have his weather and his team wants to do it and they're just gonna have a smoothie a day and this is what I've already done. I'll tell you about that story. But they're gonna just we're gonna take their blood in advance and then they all their team, they have a ten o'clock break and they're all gonna have a smoothie every day and then we're gonna take their blood again. And these guys I think some of them have diabetes. I'm a hypertension and we're really going to see how much we can change that and I'm gonna not just do my product is. Some of my future ones are gonna deal with blood pressure and blood sugar support right, so I'm going to be adding additional things in there For people that don't have that. We're just gonna follow them and see what happens their blood.
Speaker 2:Right now, we have been working with a guy for school on day who is the host of animal planet discovery Shark week and he's really fun, capable guy and we took his blood. I pitched him on this idea. Hey, you got a big following. Let me take your blood and see what it shows and then let's do a smoothie for a few months and let's see it again. And he said Sounds great. We took his blood. I told him I don't know how much of a difference gonna make because you're young, healthy guy. I think he's thirty four now and, as it turns out, he is inflammation as measured by something called c react protein, which is the red zone which you don't want to be in. Starts at about three when it be low right, and he was at ten point nine. So it was way too high and in the we ended up having to stop this a little early after six weeks because you ended up going on a shoot in australia and africa. So I said let's just take it, will see if anything happened. It went from ten point nine to one point six and we just took it again july thirty first and it was down to the less than point two. Now I don't know how it was able to be quiet.
Speaker 2:I didn't expect that big of a result. I don't know why it was so high to begin with, but he also started out pre diabetic work. As measured by a one c, it was five point seven, so it's just inside of pre diabetic. It dropped to five point zero, so very good result. Then, etc, etc.
Speaker 2:We had in oxidative stress, as measured by a pro stain, eight o, h, d, g, etc, etc. All these things got better. Plus, we did a micronutrient panel and he was out with five of them. Hundred percent of them got in after in the july one. So that was after almost seven months of doing this. But we had a really good result and I want to do this and really demonstrate it with a larger group of people, because to me I'm just excited to see what can be done, especially when people have issues like Diabetes or hypertension, because there's so much more that we can do then just take metformin or take just so many of these drugs. I think there's a tremendous amounts of other things we can do before we go down that route. I'm not Throwing drugs under the bus, I'm just saying there's. There are other things we can do lifestyle wise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, absolutely. And yeah, just to be upfront, some of those drugs need to be thrown under the bus. But overall speaking, yeah, having a product that supplies this amount of nutrients in a whole food form Pretty unheard of, so I can see why you get those type of amazing results. That's really awesome, and I'm excited to see what happens with this other pilot group you're doing as well. See what their results are. So let me ask you this you touched on this earlier the synthetic versus the natural whole food form of different nutrients. A lot of our clients and my listeners are already familiar or have at least an interest in moving in that direction. You mentioned vitamin C. Is it as important with other nutrients as well, and other different factors that are in your product to the same degree, or how does that work? So?
Speaker 2:How do I say this? It if somebody is getting a fairly balanced diet but they're low in, let's say, they have plenty of vitamin C but they're low in zinc, the vitamin C that's in my product is not gonna be helpful for, but the zinc will be very helpful. Or if they're low in iodine, because iodine, even though I'm putting in 170% of the RDA, the reason is because there's so many goiter gin. So it's. I have no idea what people are missing. I do know what percentage, according to the government, each item is missing and I think the amount that people are accepting of iodine. It used to be 4% of people were low in iodine. Then, in 1998, was seeing that half the amount of iodine that was the way it's tested is in the urine. Right, people were excreting half the amount, which means that they were getting half the amount of iodine in their diet. Because I'd and I salt was not being used as much, which is not a great form of iodine, by the way and because it's not absorbed and it's got some problems. Let's just say that. But there are all these goiter gin as well. We have chlorine, which is a which we go to.
Speaker 2:Gen is something that blocks the absorption of iodine and I'm three main substances that are that Chlorine would be one, bromide would be another and fluoride would be another. And what is it? 65% of our water supply is now floridated, so that's right. There is blocking a lot of people and it goes into the products for the people that are not in that segment. So if you buy a product that's manufactured in michigan, where it's highly floridated, and you're in california, you're still getting a lot of florid right and to me that's a I would highly recommend people stay away from floridated things. I don't think that's a healthy thing. That's just my opinion from all the research I've done. But you have all these things that are blocking the absorption of iodine. So having a consistent, healthy, absorbable, natural source of iodine Is the important, same thing with zinc. It's important for both men and women, but I'm gonna speak to men just for a second.
Speaker 2:There are all these people taking Testosterone cream right, and it works. It can work very well, but it in the biofeedback mechanism of testosterone, so your body sees all I'm getting testosterone, so I don't need to make it. So it's only dodging this or internal production goes down often, so you end up becoming almost addicted in a way to getting the exogenous, not necessarily the best way. So there was a study for zinc and it took. It was a correlation study and it looked at how much zinc people are getting, how much testosterone. This is all for men and there was a high correlation. But correlation does not mean causation. So they took a group of young men that had good testosterone levels and they put them on a zinc restricted diet. I would not want to be on the study. They lowered their testosterone by seventy three point five percent, wow. And then they took men that had low testosterone and they gave them 30 milligrams. Their testosterone went up 92.5 and those people Testosterone levels crossed.
Speaker 2:They don't need to take drastic amounts, just need consistent, healthy amounts. And you need it balanced with copper Because those are antagonistic towards each other. So you need to have both or you'll make yourself copper deficient if you're just taking. So there's a lot of thought that goes into each and everything and people, whatever their deficient, is what they need. If they're getting in their diet plenty of, let's say, vitamin a, then adding more vitamin a Is not likely to hurt them, especially in a plant based form can hurt them if you're getting in a different form, but in a plant based form. You're not in form of beta carotene or something like. That is no routine or any of those Just not gonna get hurt. But there are others that you can have too much. But that's what I'm trying to do is gently match all of these different things for the things that americans are deficient.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's really awesome. It's really amazing and thank goodness you are. It's an epidemic out there lack of nutrients and Everyone's feeling and the other thing. I'm just super impressed with your knowledge base and all the research you've done on this, and can you speak to a little bit about how you gathered all this information and develop the research and what not?
Speaker 2:As it turns out, I have a curious mind and I have. I've been studying it on my own, but I've also. I go in and I go to conferences, I take classes, I I've worked with naturopath and when I work with somebody I share information and there's just I love the collaborative thing where you Share, cuz I am sure you have a ton of knowledge that I don't have and I'm sure if we chat we would figure out where some of those things were and I get really fascinated by that. So, between the studying, working with people that are very smart and just being incredibly curious, I've just collected all of this and then I started working with people and trying to really create a way for them to proceed forward is been a very learning experience and I'm Even while I had other businesses like.
Speaker 2:The last one was a solar development Company, which is just not my passion. I never really was doing it and it had some excitement to it and there's some, but I don't really care. There's some good things about solar, but there's some. In my opinion, there better technologies are very alternative. Then solar that's a whole nother thing, but this is something. That scene people get better when they didn't know that they could is a real excitement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amazing. Let me ask you about this so a lot of the clients that I work with are interested in changing their body composition. For guys, they want to put on muscle, maybe lose some body fat. A lot of the women I work with want to lose body fat. Could be for Many different reasons, whether it's just health or it's because they want to look better. It's usually a combination of all the above. So how would your product lend itself towards assisting people who are looking for that sort of assistance?
Speaker 2:So when you're talking about losing weight, so the first thing is having a Lifestyle that this can be done for a long time and it's very healthy. So people can lose weight for a short period of time doing a restrictive diet or doing a really unique thing, but if it's not part of their lifestyle, it's really not an effective way to go. So to me, critically important is to understand what weight loss is, what it is for them and what they are willing to do that is projected out into the future. So I'm just going to tell you what my beliefs on what weight loss it or weight gain is, where people are Having obesity and what that is. I know about Emotional connections with it and stuff like that, but I'm not going to speak about that aspect right now. What I'm going to talk about is it is a dysregulation, almost always of the system. We are built to be in homostasis. We are not built to gain extra weight.
Speaker 2:And there were there have been feeding studies of prisoners where they were force-fed like literally a hundred thousand additional calories and they barely gained any weight and they hated it. And Then, right at the end of the study, the few pounds that they had gained, they lost and they went right back. So their system was regulated and if you look back in history and all the kings and queens, it was Extremely rare for kings and queens and all these royalty that were having seven course meals three times a day and all this other stuff For to be overweight. There was King Henry the 8th and you had Louis Legroce, which was Louis the fat, and those were like outliers, right? What? Why was that that so few of these eating tremendous amounts? It's because they didn't have the endocrine disruptors at that time. Their bodies were in Homostasis to a great degree. Could they override that? Could they get thrown off? Yes, some people did, but it was very rare. It was not common.
Speaker 2:In this country there was a study done and I believe it was the 1890s, and 1.07% of the adult population was considered obese. Today, according to the CDC, it's 41.9%. That's now 2017 to 2020. So you have this Gineormous increase and it's just taken off and the CDC is predicting by 2030. It'll be 50%. So you have this and we're just going.
Speaker 2:What's causing this? Let me throw out a couple of things. There's something called BPA. I'm sure most you've seen BPA free bottles and it's just. It is a substance that is considered an endocrine Endocrine disruptor or hormone disruptor, and it impacts something called adiponectin, and adiponectin is the diabetes and Obesity hormone or one of them, but that's one of the main ones. It's called that like when people refer to it, and that gets impacted and lowered Substantially, putting people at much greater risk of developing obesity. Then you're looking at things like EMF's and how that can. If you look at pregnancy Of women and their children being followed out 12 years, the children that were exposed to the most EMF's had substantially 2.8 times the level of the low exposure. That's comparing one exposure level to another, not something to nothing, but one to another.
Speaker 2:So how do people, given all this thing, how does somebody Deal with this? So there are many ways. It's what they're willing to do and what fits into their lifestyle. One is you can preload your meals, preload it with water. Half an hour before somebody eats, drink 16 ounces of water. It will impact Substantially how much food you eat, even though you're taking in no calories. Having being hydrated is great.
Speaker 2:Also, eating low Chlorically dense foods such as an apple, which is very low caloric calorically in terms of the amount of calories In the studies done on those where people ate an apple beforehand, like 20 minutes before, because you want to eat it with enough time. So it gets in and your body starts almost getting satiate, even though it's triggering a little bit of oh, I'm almost getting ready to eat. It will lower the how much you eat. And when they did these studies, people ate about 200 calories less during the meal. So having a hundred calories actually impacted how much they ate by 200 calories and it's super healthy. That's the sort of thing that people can do.
Speaker 2:And then you look at what are really healthy diets. You want to just have, from my perspective, really nutrient dense foods that are low calorically. And If you look at this, you look at a strawberry. If you were to have, let's say, if a man was eating 2200 calories, that's about 15 stomach fulls of Strawberries. You're never going to be able to eat too many calories on strawberries, right. But if you look at how much that takes from an oil perspective, it's a third, two-thirds a cup of oil would cover that, it's something like that. I don't remember the exact amount, but the bottom line is it takes drastically less. Oil is a huge thing. Refined oil and refined sugar makes up 42% of the American diet. Refined grain makes up 20%, so 62% has almost zero nutrition and it has 62% of the calories, and so it puts people at risk of developing Obesity as well as a whole bunch of other chronic diseases. So I could go on for hours on that, but I didn't mean to spin out on that.
Speaker 1:So, no, that's great, that's really good information, and so your shake would obviously be Super, super dense in nutrition and value there. So that would help Counteract, as well as getting a healthy diet in these things, and help people move towards weight loss.
Speaker 2:Especially if they're low in specific nutrients, because there's specific Micronutrients that when you're not there, it triggers the body to be hungry. But also I'll give you an example if you look at iodine, if somebody's low in iodine and their thyroid is not working Adequately and they go into hyperthyroid, one of the side effects of that is weight gain. But there are other ones selenium is directly connected with the thyroid function and then you have other ones like magnesium or cetera. Having the micronutrients there is critically important. Also, fiber is super, super important because fiber later in your, as it's going through your body, is creating in your, in your intestines and colon. It starts to create something called butyrate, which Lowers this, the desire to be hunger or the satiety right. So it's important to have that and there's. So they're all these things coming together.
Speaker 2:There's a full plan that I would do if I, when I work with people that have Obesity and they're willing to make the changes. There are also supplements you can take, but it's not so much about supplements. I'll give you an example black cumin seed. If you buy black cumin seed, it lowers Hunger and it's been shown to lower weight gain over months. But it's a tiny amount and but it's easy to take. There are things like that you can add, but all these other things like getting the overall direction in a healthy direction to really Take care of that, so that you protect your lean body mass but you lose weight, because a lot of times when people lose fat or lose weight, you can be losing two thirds of lean body mass, and so it's really critical to retain that, because your lean body mass is directly connected with the longevity Awesome.
Speaker 1:I love it. Totally agreed as well. Great stuff. Okay, good, we have how amazing this is and whatnot. I wanted to ask you a couple questions about some things that I just thought of as you were talking about it. So there is a lot of fiber and prebiotic in your product. For those people who are maybe have a tendency towards bloating or whatnot, do you have a protocol for someone who's experiencing digestive issues but wants to add all these nutrients in, but maybe avoiding the bloating that could come from that part of the product?
Speaker 2:So bloating can be an issue. So I'm glad you brought that up. But I suggest, if you look at the research, people really shouldn't move more than five grams of fiber more in their diet in any week. So you should slowly build it up. So when I'm having, like, I have usually about a 24 ounce smoothie a day and I have a full dose of my product. So we're talking about 25 grams of fiber. For most people that would be too much and would cause bloating. And that's because if you look at fiber, how important it is, it's really fantastic from a whole bunch of levels.
Speaker 2:But I don't tell people to do that. I tell people to start with a much smaller amount and start with half a serving of my product and even for some people that are very that has a very sensitive stomach, to start with even a quarter. And it's a food it really is. It's a very concentrated food, and so I tell people to develop, give it time to almost get your body used to it, the use to the fiber and the concentrated nutrition. And so people if they start out with, let's say, half or even a quarter of a serving in a smoothie and then slowly build up to a full dose and you don't need to take my product at a full dose forever. It's really to build up the micronutrients. And, by the way, the only people that I've unfreeze I don't mean to say it this way, but the only people that have had a problem have been really women, where and I don't know why women specifically have had it. But even they, when they just start out low and they just give themselves some time, they can build it up.
Speaker 1:Makes sense, makes sense. Yeah, I figured you had ran into that and had to work around for it. That's why I want to ask so awesome. And then are there cases where somebody's maybe working on really building up their body or they're an athlete where they would want to take even more than the recommended dosage?
Speaker 2:Nobody's ever asked me that question. If somebody, I would say there's not really. This is really the full dose is really designed to cover that. But if let's say there was an athlete, I would, and I'm I would be targeting specific things, like I'm going to be making a product for athletes at some point and it will have have things like nitrates, because it nitrates are basically the only thing that's ever been shown to increase oxygen utilization, and that's why, during the 2012 Olympics, all the beats were sold out for hundreds of miles in outside of London, because all the athletes were buying up all the beats and making beet juice because it's one of the high nitrate foods and they were actually getting a really good spike in the utilization of oxygen, for so it's a fantastic source, but it's not in most things. So one I would be putting that in there.
Speaker 2:And then some of the electrolytes and really a lot of the products that are on the market for electrolytes. They're all synthetic. Most of them are not complete. They have no antioxidants in them. So if it was an athlete, I would be having antioxidants there, because you're creating oxidative stress, especially in these really long runs, and I'm working with a guy that's winning these ultramarathon and he won a hundred mile race and he wants to do a 200 mile. I'm just going oh my God, you got to. I don't even know where to start with that. But if you look at the DNA damage from something like that at the beginning, where somebody is at a very low level, and then at the end, your DNA damage is off the chart, and so you can protect that to a great degree by having antioxidants during the course of that time. Having nitrates, having antioxidants and having full spectrum electrolytes is what I would say for the athletes that are listening right now, and yeah, that would be right, awesome, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just curious is there a standard for full spectrum electrolytes? When you say a standard, what does that mean? Is there an approved? This is the full spectrum of electrolytes you need for different activities, or something like that you've come across in your research.
Speaker 2:So there are six electrolytes or six nutrients that are really considered electrolytes sodium chloride, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium and one other and there is no specific amount. The thing that I've done is gone into the studies and looked at what is needed and how much this, and I've come to the best conclusion. I haven't finished, but I've designed what I would do in that case, but it's still a work in progress. I probably won't have this product for another year or so, and I really want to have it because I'm a perfectionist this way, to have it perfect, if like, to really impact people, and this will all be from Whole Foods.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow, amazing, yeah, oh. The last one is potassium. That's potassium. There we go. Okay, nice, okay great. That sounds very exciting. Yeah, we'll keep me posted on that one. So if you're talking to somebody and they're running into some sort of issue with their health and it's like a long-term, chronic thing and it's not something they've just had for a couple years, but it's long-term, do you have any experience with people getting over for improving their condition, how we want to place that delicately, that situation from using your product?
Speaker 2:Yes, very much. And I have a friend, tamara, who was diagnosed with diabetes. She had an A1C of 9.5. So if any of your listeners know what that means, you're not only diabetic but you are a raging diabetic.
Speaker 2:At that point and we sat down because she knows what that can lead to and she was already having some neuropathy and I went over and restructured a bunch of things, so it's not just my product. So here's what she did. She was doing intermittent fasting. So, for those of your audience that don't know, she was starting eating at about 8 in the morning and she would end at 4 pm in the afternoon. So that is a very restrictive time of eating. And then everything else up beyond that was just water or just tea, without anything, so not to any additional calories, and she would have a smoothie for breakfast, a smoothie for lunch, and then she was having her term was just a normal, very unhealthy dinner, so it wasn't, but she was having two smoothies. So that was a good start.
Speaker 2:But then I had her doing a whole bunch of things that have been shown to be incredibly good for diabetes, right, things like berbering that's not in my product. Right, because that is not specifically, it's not for people to take care of their diabetes. I do have things in there, and that's why the forest person that I mentioned had a blood sugar lowering. Turmeric will help, omelow will help, et cetera All these things that will lower blood sugar if it's needed. But it really it's not designed to just lower, but I would add things like berbering, omelow, turmeric, et cetera, and so I had her on a bunch of things like that. But she started losing two pounds a week. Her blood sugar went and in fact I have it right here where she sent me her 24-hour what was going on in her blood and her blood sugar numbers got too low and I said you need to back off because you're going down too low. And so there's so much that can be done.
Speaker 2:Hypertension is the same way, and these are two big issues. In our country In 1958, it was.9% of Americans had diabetes. What is it now? I think it's 13%. That's a ginormous amount. And then pre-diabetes it's almost a third of the United States adult populations. But there's tremendous amount that people can do with their diet if they're willing to do it. So when I'm just telling you that it wasn't just my product, it was much more than that.
Speaker 1:Nice. That's an amazing result. Anyhow, it was gotten. Yeah, yeah, so awesome, yeah, and I know that just from the stories that you've told and everything that I definitely have some people in mind. I'm like, okay, some people, because the other thing is, the thing I like about your product is it's such a broad profile that even if the person doesn't eat veggies or refuses to or won't eat certain foods they should be eating, they're covered. If they can just get that into a shake, right, and everybody likes shakes.
Speaker 2:When I make a smoothie. My smoothies are. They're not a McDonald's milkshake. They don't taste like that right, but they're not bad. I've come to enjoy them. But they're mixtures of berries and because what I'm trying to do in that smoothie is take the best of everything, so I have my product. I have these blend of power greens, all organic, a blend of organic berries, nuts and seeds.
Speaker 2:And our number one killer is heart disease. And yet if you look at the studies on nuts and seeds, the people that have five servings or more compared to one or less, and they have less than half the heart disease risk. And it's so easy and it's good for all these other things, good for your skin, et cetera, et cetera. So I'm trying to cover as much as I can in this one little smoothie a day that tastes pretty good. I won't say that, it's just to be honest. It's when I make one, I know how to make one where it's got cow, peanut butter, plant-based milk and a banana. Yeah, it's tastes really good. It's not as healthy as the one that I make, but that's at least a good start and it has my product in it and cacao is super healthy, et cetera.
Speaker 1:Love it. Okay, great, awesome. If somebody wants to get some more information about everything you've got over today, or get ahold of the shakes or reach out and get more information from a person, how would they go about doing that?
Speaker 2:The best way would be to go onto the website sosnutrientscom, s-o-s just like giving what does it say of our souls? S-o-s, and then nutrientscom. That is the best way. We're on Instagram. I'm coming, I'm going to create a YouTube channel and we're going to be. We're on LinkedIn, et cetera, et cetera, but the best form of information by far is the website, and if anybody wants to jump on a call or on a Zoom, I'm happy to do it. Again, this is my passion and I really want to impact people's lives, so I'm happy to jump on and go over some things Awesome.
Speaker 1:That sounds great, awesome. And is there anything else you would like to share that we didn't cover on the questions we went over or in what we talked about?
Speaker 2:I guess the one final thing that I would say is we have tremendous ability to undo damages, and there are multiple ways to do it. It's not just nutrition right, there's exercise and there's how you're thinking about things, and I've done these podcasts on your mental state and how that impacts health. There are all these other things, but nutrition is a bedrock and if people really start there, it's a very good start to have a very different experience, and it impacts things like depression substantially. So it doesn't just end with are your bones good, or anti-cancer, or energy level. There are many other benefits of it as well.
Speaker 1:Nice, awesome, totally agreed, and I love your information. Thank you so much for being here today. It's been a pleasure. I've learned several things and I'm so happy to be able to share this with my audience and whoever ends up listening to our little conversation here.
Speaker 2:Brian, great meeting. You. Really enjoyed being on here with you, and so thanks for having me Absolutely.
